Comments on: Authority of Scripture-Quotes, Video and Opinion

By: Jonathan Sharman

Jonathan Sharman — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:34:01 +0000

It’s true isn’t it. He can reveal so many new things to us even today through that which he left us so long ago.
Such is the sovereignty and wisdom of our almighty God.

By: Scripture Zealot

Scripture Zealot — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:23:31 +0000

I don’t mean to say that God’s Spirit in us is useless without the scriptures, because obviously that isn’t true, but that our walk with God is massively enhanced by our knowledge of his scriptures

I wish people knew and cared more about this, including myself until a few years ago.
Jeff

By: Jonathan Sharman

Jonathan Sharman — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:04:23 +0000

*poignantly – I was stuck between saying poignantly and pointedly, lol.

By: Jonathan Sharman

Jonathan Sharman — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:02:52 +0000

Sorry I had to rush that post as my baby started crying and I couldn’t type very well holding him, lol.
I don’t mean to say that God’s Spirit in us is useless without the scriptures, because obviously that isn’t true, but that our walk with God is massively enhanced by our knowledge of his scriptures, poiniently his Gospel message, and an understanding of who Jesus is and all that he has done for us. (What he has taken from us (our rightful death penalty for sin) and what he has given us (his Holy Spirit relationship.))
But in the same way, the scripture alone can only get us so far when processing it in the mind – explaining a lot of Jesus’ rebukes of the ‘teachers of the law’ Although the law is perfect, our treatment or understanding of it is necessarily NOT.
It is the spirit of the law that gives life, but the letter of the law that kills.

By: Scripture Zealot

Scripture Zealot — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:37:17 +0000

I guess what I mean to say is that regardless of whether the scriptures themselves are perfect or not, or their scribes without blame, God is, and I believe that his scriptures are as he meant them to be.

Yes indeed.
Jeff

By: Jonathan Sharman

Jonathan Sharman — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:54:55 +0000

I always used to writhe and get frustrated by Jeus’ cryptic words which reveal fools as such, but I’ve since come to see the beautiful poetry in it all. The words of Jesus are to be trusted absolutely – as is his Spirit which ministers its true meaning to us in our very circumstances – and it is only in this way that truth will ever be known or understood in its pure form.
It teaches us that we can never find perfection with our minds, but only through his Spirit – and Jesus was the first example of this. (Of course, we aren’t sinless, so we’re not PERFECT, but His Spirit is, so that’s the best place to start.)
I guess what I mean to say is that regardless of whether the scriptures themselves are perfect or not, or their scribes without blame, God is, and I believe that his scriptures are as he meant them to be.
There’s no easy way out. We need the scriptures, but we also need the Spirit, and one is limited to useless in us without the other.

By: tomgdrums

tomgdrums — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 08:38:36 +0000

I am looking forward to reading about that AND even more, I hope you feel better very soon!!

By: Scripture Zealot

Scripture Zealot — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:22:43 +0000

I agree Tom. Certain things seem to be everywhere in the Bible. I will post on sovereignty when I’m done being sick.
Jeff

By: tomgdrums

tomgdrums — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:35:33 +0000

I would say that Scripture does speak about itself even if it isn’t a blatant “Hey You Need To Read This”. aha moment every time. The thing is that the more I cross-reference using a concordance or an actual Cross-Referencing source I am finding that Bible speaks of itself quite often. It just isn’t as loud and obvious as everything else in our culture.

By: Scripture Zealot

Scripture Zealot — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:29:26 +0000

I edited out the thing that Packer said. We’ve seen some strange stuff from him regarding the ESV. Otherwise I don’t know.
Jeff

By: T.C. R

T.C. R — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:07:33 +0000

Jeff, I see you hold a very high view of Scripture. Good. But we tend to want to analyze Scripture propositionally, around tight logical – so a denial of inerrancy is cause for concern.

I admire Packer, but it seems that we years he’s been saying some questionable stuff. Is he ok?

By: Scripture Zealot

Scripture Zealot — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:49:43 +0000

That was Horton saying that. I’m not sure if he’s a Calvinist but most likely is. I wouldn’t go as far as him on that. Now that I look at it again, maybe I should have left that part out. I think imputation is important and I found that quote and video. In fact I am going to remove those parts because I think that’s too divisive and it’s another topic anyway.

As far as I know, imputation was Luther’s idea but I would say that Paul started it (smiley) and is generally a Protestant thing though Calvin built on it. Catholics would hold to infused righteousness as far as I understand it. Take some deep breaths.
Jeff

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:26:12 +0000

I fear walking into this foray, but I can’t ignore Packer saying Wright is preaching another gospel. This is the greatest aggravation I have with Calvinists. When their line of theology is threatened, and pushed into a corner about it, it seems they are ready to call any variation another gospel. John Calvin is not the gospel.

Again, far be it from me to be an expert on any of this, either. Yet, this particular point drives me NUTS about hard-line Calvinists.