Comments on: How far should I go with Greek? http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/ Bible Blog - Growing Closer to God through the Scriptures Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:48:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Nathan Stitt http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4624 Nathan Stitt Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:08:50 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4624 I loved the book (EEG). It was short, simple, and to the point. There were also concise review problems if you want to do them, but I skipped past them. It was nice to review the grammar quickly on a Saturday afternoon, and not a chore. I'm glad you found that post helpful. I had forgotten about Esteban's comments at the end, but I do remember thinking that resorting to the LXX would be something I would prefer to do. Also, the NETS version of the LXX is great and worth picking up IMO. I think it's on Amazon for $24. I loved the book (EEG). It was short, simple, and to the point. There were also concise review problems if you want to do them, but I skipped past them. It was nice to review the grammar quickly on a Saturday afternoon, and not a chore.

I’m glad you found that post helpful. I had forgotten about Esteban’s comments at the end, but I do remember thinking that resorting to the LXX would be something I would prefer to do. Also, the NETS version of the LXX is great and worth picking up IMO. I think it’s on Amazon for $24.

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4611 Scripture Zealot Sun, 07 Dec 2008 03:41:24 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4611 Nathan, <a href="http://discipuluscripturae.wordpress.com/2008/03/30/feedback-greek-grammars/#comments" rel="nofollow">your post on March 30</a> is very helpful. I'm pretty sure I'm going with Croy's <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802860001?ie=UTF8&tag=tradingbooks0c&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0802860001" rel="nofollow">A Primer of Biblical Greek</a> because of what <a href="http://scripturezealot2.wordpress.com/2008/11/29/more-greek/" rel="nofollow">Mike recommends on my other blog</a>, what Esteban said in your blog and because it goes into the LXX which is of interest to me.<br /><br />I was also looking for a good English grammar book and saw the one you listed on your post--<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Essential-English-Grammar-Philip-Gucker/dp/0486216497/" rel="nofollow">Essential English Grammar</a>. Our library system has that so I'm going to go through it first unless you don't like it.<br /><br />Thanks.<br />Jeff<br /> Nathan, your post on March 30 is very helpful. I’m pretty sure I’m going with Croy’s A Primer of Biblical Greek because of what Mike recommends on my other blog, what Esteban said in your blog and because it goes into the LXX which is of interest to me.

I was also looking for a good English grammar book and saw the one you listed on your post–Essential English Grammar. Our library system has that so I’m going to go through it first unless you don’t like it.

Thanks.
Jeff

]]> By: Nathan Stitt http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4610 Nathan Stitt Sun, 07 Dec 2008 01:48:39 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4610 If you have any questions about books to buy, I spent quite a bit of time researching things last spring. You can search my blog history, or just ask me for particulars in email or something. Please keep us updated with what books you are thinking of going with though! If you have any questions about books to buy, I spent quite a bit of time researching things last spring. You can search my blog history, or just ask me for particulars in email or something. Please keep us updated with what books you are thinking of going with though!

]]> By: Damian http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4603 Damian Sat, 06 Dec 2008 20:11:54 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4603 Good stuff, Jeff. I also learn better on my own - you're not the only one. And seriously, if I can learn it on top of my other study and the time blogging takes up, then anyone can. Good stuff, Jeff. I also learn better on my own – you’re not the only one. And seriously, if I can learn it on top of my other study and the time blogging takes up, then anyone can.

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4600 Scripture Zealot Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:06:56 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4600 I actually learn better on my own than in school. But in school that's more your vocation (concentration of your time) at the time and have a young spongy mind.<br /><br />Thanks for the encouragement Brian. <br />Jeff I actually learn better on my own than in school. But in school that’s more your vocation (concentration of your time) at the time and have a young spongy mind.

Thanks for the encouragement Brian.
Jeff

]]> By: Brian http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4580 Brian Sat, 06 Dec 2008 05:42:11 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4580 I once did a paper in college on John Templeton Strong, a guy that lived in early American History, he was a lawyer by trade, and once a Rector of a Church, he practially raced home after work and locked himself in his study so he could read Greek.  You can learn it if you want - go for it! I once did a paper in college on John Templeton Strong, a guy that lived in early American History, he was a lawyer by trade, and once a Rector of a Church, he practially raced home after work and locked himself in his study so he could read Greek.  You can learn it if you want – go for it!

]]> By: tc robinson http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4577 tc robinson Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:47:41 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4577 Yeah, I had the discipline of skool.  That's true.  But many have mastered the thing outside of a traditional classroom. ;-) Yeah, I had the discipline of skool.  That’s true.  But many have mastered the thing outside of a traditional classroom. ;-)

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4576 Scripture Zealot Sat, 06 Dec 2008 04:25:49 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4576 Yeah but weren't you in skool and stuff? How long did that take?<br />Jeff Yeah but weren’t you in skool and stuff? How long did that take?
Jeff

]]> By: tc robinson http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4574 tc robinson Sat, 06 Dec 2008 03:33:03 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4574 Jeff, don't stop until you can read through the entire NT, doing your own translation with comprehension.  That was my goal. Jeff, don’t stop until you can read through the entire NT, doing your own translation with comprehension.  That was my goal.

]]> By: Brian http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4563 Brian Fri, 05 Dec 2008 19:47:45 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4563 Good.  Some look at a situation and ask "Why not?" others look at the same situation and ask "why?"  I say look at learning Greek and ask "Why not?"  Remember, its a long life - you have time, if you want, take your time.  Good.  Some look at a situation and ask “Why not?” others look at the same situation and ask “why?”  I say look at learning Greek and ask “Why not?”  Remember, its a long life – you have time, if you want, take your time. 

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4557 Scripture Zealot Fri, 05 Dec 2008 15:21:21 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4557 [cross posting in other blog too]<br /><br />That seals it. I'm going to take the time. I might start after my next book order near the end of this month. Thanks for the comments.<br />Jeff [cross posting in other blog too]

That seals it. I’m going to take the time. I might start after my next book order near the end of this month. Thanks for the comments.
Jeff

]]> By: Nathan Stitt http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4541 Nathan Stitt Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:31:45 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4541 I'm doing really well at the moment. As with you, I also have only finished Mounce's book. However, I can comfortably use and understand every technical commentary and discussion of the Greek that I have come across so far. I don't feel a pressing need to master Greek, but I'm still interested in at least trying to complete a beginner's grammar book at some point. I'd like to be able to read the New Testament in Greek, even if it is a reader's edition. However, if I never spent another day learning Greek, it has beneficial to do just the small amount I've done so far. I'm excited to learn more though. I’m doing really well at the moment. As with you, I also have only finished Mounce’s book. However, I can comfortably use and understand every technical commentary and discussion of the Greek that I have come across so far. I don’t feel a pressing need to master Greek, but I’m still interested in at least trying to complete a beginner’s grammar book at some point. I’d like to be able to read the New Testament in Greek, even if it is a reader’s edition. However, if I never spent another day learning Greek, it has beneficial to do just the small amount I’ve done so far. I’m excited to learn more though.

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4533 Scripture Zealot Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:55:38 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4533 Maybe I should ask this question: What benefit will it be for me to learn advanced beginner to intermediate Greek? It seems so in-between. I can use an interlinear now or become advanced and really be able to comprehend, which I don't think I can make a commitment to right now.<br /><br />I can see myself learning vocabulary because I've been memorizing Scripture regularly for a long time. Although I know words need context so it may not be that easy.<br />Jeff Maybe I should ask this question: What benefit will it be for me to learn advanced beginner to intermediate Greek? It seems so in-between. I can use an interlinear now or become advanced and really be able to comprehend, which I don’t think I can make a commitment to right now.

I can see myself learning vocabulary because I’ve been memorizing Scripture regularly for a long time. Although I know words need context so it may not be that easy.
Jeff

]]> By: Brian http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4530 Brian Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:22:07 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4530 Most grammars these days have complementing workbooks, answers, etc - David Alan Black's <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Learn-Read-New-Testament-Greek/dp/0805416129/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228429284&sr=1-3" rel="nofollow">Learn to Read New Testament Greek</a></em> is another to consider.  <strong>Go as far as you want to</strong>.  If you have a desire to read the NT with some level of comfort you can reach it if you want - <strong>learning the vocab will be key</strong> - maybe get one of the Readers versions that have vobab glosses at the bottom is worth considering getting.  That way if there's a word you're not sure about you don't have to dig it out of a lexicon.  <strong>Learning the vocab is key</strong> and that just <strong>comes with time</strong> and effort, but if you like, go for it!  Do it to the glory of God.  Most grammars these days have complementing workbooks, answers, etc - David Alan Black’s Learn to Read New Testament Greek is another to consider.  Go as far as you want to.  If you have a desire to read the NT with some level of comfort you can reach it if you want - learning the vocab will be key – maybe get one of the Readers versions that have vobab glosses at the bottom is worth considering getting.  That way if there’s a word you’re not sure about you don’t have to dig it out of a lexicon.  Learning the vocab is key and that just comes with time and effort, but if you like, go for it!  Do it to the glory of God. 

]]> By: Scripture Zealot http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4528 Scripture Zealot Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:14:26 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4528 I started out doing the Machen (1st Edition, there is a 2nd) until I realized he was using some Latin grammar stuff. Then Mike commented on the other blog. But as far as the answers they seemed self evident from what's in the chapter, at least for the first chapter. Maybe it's different later on. <br /><br />How far have you gone with Greek?<br />Jeff I started out doing the Machen (1st Edition, there is a 2nd) until I realized he was using some Latin grammar stuff. Then Mike commented on the other blog. But as far as the answers they seemed self evident from what’s in the chapter, at least for the first chapter. Maybe it’s different later on.

How far have you gone with Greek?
Jeff

]]> By: Shaun Tabatt http://www.scripturezealot.com/2008/12/04/how-far-should-i-go-with-greek/comment-page-1/#comment-4525 Shaun Tabatt Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:54:19 +0000 http://www.scripturezealot.com/?p=1256#comment-4525 I learned Greek with Machen during my undergraduate days.  If you elected to go with Machen, you can actually get an answer book, which gives you all the answers to the exercises.  It's compiled by Spiros Zodhiates.  It's out of print, so It may be a challenge to find.  I found mine on half.com quite a few years ago.  Croy's primer is excellent too and I would dare to say a bit more accessible than Machen.  For me, Machen's grammar will always hold a special place in my heart.  Happy studying! I learned Greek with Machen during my undergraduate days.  If you elected to go with Machen, you can actually get an answer book, which gives you all the answers to the exercises.  It’s compiled by Spiros Zodhiates.  It’s out of print, so It may be a challenge to find.  I found mine on half.com quite a few years ago.  Croy’s primer is excellent too and I would dare to say a bit more accessible than Machen.  For me, Machen’s grammar will always hold a special place in my heart.  Happy studying!

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