Free Will

This is an idea I’m still grappling with. Here is a good compilation of quotes and Scripture:
…is there such a thing as “free will”?

Scripture mentioned:
John 6:37, John 6:44, Ephesians 2:1-3, Ephesians 2:8-9, Titus 3:4-7

21 Responses to “Free Will”


  1. 1 Lu

    Yes, there is free will. However, there is also Omniscience. (Hope I spelled that right).

  2. 2 ScriptureZealot

    Hi Lu,
    Yes that’s spelled correctly.

    I’m still reading about free will. I think there needs to be a distinction between free will, freedom of choice and responsibility. Maybe for a future post.

  3. 3 ScriptureZealot

    In John Piper’s devotional for this week he recommends the book The Freedom of the Will by Jonathan Edwards.

  4. 4 ScriptureZealot

    Here is a review for a book called Election and Free Will

  5. 5 ScriptureZealot

    “I do not come into this pulpit hoping that perhaps somebody will, of his own free will, come to Christ. My hope lies in another quarter. I hope that my Master will lay hold of some of them and say, ‘You are mine, and you shall be mine. I claim you for Myself.’ My hope arises from the freeness of grace, and not from the freedom of the will.”
    –Charles Haddon Spurgeon

  6. 6 Bulletin News

    Wonderful view about ll, Grace, Mercy, Holy Spirit | Scripture Zealot. I enjoy this articles.

  7. 7 ScriptureZealot
  8. 8 ScriptureZealot
  9. 9 ChristFollower

    Think of it this way… The sacrifice of Christ made a way for us to have eternal life, but it didn’t change the nature of our flesh.  Read Romans 3:10-11 and you will know the condition of our flesh.  When you consider that, do you believe man is able to, ON HIS OWN, make a decision to follow God?  No, God takes the first step and pursues us. Another good scripture is Ephesians 1:3-6.  If you want to know how I vidualize it… draw a large circle (this represents God’s realm; if it were realistic it would be infinately large)  then inside the circle put a dot (label it dot A) to represent where you began life.  Then put another dot (label it dot B) to represent where you end life if you are saved. Obviously you want to seperate the two dots a ways.  Now you must realize that God has predetermined that you are going from point A to point B… regardless of anything else.  (And if you want you can put a point C, which is for those that weren’t chosen to be saved). However, from point A to point B is your life and all the many decisions and consequences of your actions fall between point A and B.  There might be a million different roads you take to get from point A to point B, and which route you take is going to be based on your decisions.  However, you are still going to be at point B when all is said and done. Obviously nothing breaks through the large circle… which is God’s realm.  Hope this is helpful!

  10. 10 Paul Townsend

    . . . but a Point “C” has to enter the discussion . . . God “creates” Point A; GOd “desires” Point B. We can CHOOSE Point B or we can choose Point C, which is where we end up if we choose NOT to follow God. In that case, He is disappointed if we go with “C”, but it was OUR call, not His. It does not break the circle . . . He allows it in, by our “desire” or “request”. Sure, He know what we will choose, but that is a discussion for a different blog.

  11. 11 ChristFollower

    To believe in free will concerning salvation is very arrogant and unbiblical. Read John 6:37, 6:44, Romans 8:28&29, Romans Chapter 9, Ephesians 1:3-5… not to mention the fact that Christ originally came to save only the Jews. (His elect people) and what about the 144k Jews that will be saved in the end? (Book of Rev.) These are just a few of the evidences in scripture that show God pre-destined and has very exclusive groups/numbers of people he will save. Even a believer’s faith is a gift from God according to scripture. I caution you not to take credit for anything God has done. Peace and Blessings!

  12. 12 ChristFollower

    Paul,

    We have all already chosen point “C” as our default destination as a result of the fall. That’s why God must take the first step in saving us by giving us the Spirit and convicting us. You have NOTHING to do with willing the Spirit or your convictions a certain direction. This is why God must choose us/predestine us.

    I do agree that we have free will when it comes to everyday living. Even after God has called & saved us He says “Take up your cross daily and follow me.” There are many different paths which we can go down to get from point A to point B… which are a result of our choices/free will… but we will still end up at point B in the end.

  13. 13 Stan McCullars

    God does predesting us. Yet we freely choose to serve God and to repent from our sin. We are not forced to do so.

  14. 14 ChristFollower

    I totally agree Stan.

  15. 15 Russ Davis

    As the saying goes, “Define your terms and I’ll argue with you!” I don’t know if I’ve ever argued with a professing “christian” where their gut-level-knee-jerk-reaction-without-a-thought wasn’t “Yesthere’sfreewilldamnit!” Of course it’s all man’s foolish pseudo-wisdom without a verse of God’s Word that isn’t taken out of context since one cannot find man’s delusion of “free will” in God’s Word. Funny how professing “christians” are offended if you bring up your preference for God’s free will or grace (e.g. your Spurgeon quote) because it threatens their ego idol. God’s first, great command is to love Him with all, including our minds and philosophies, but that doesn’t stop them. God-exalting monergism (God alone (mon-) doing the work (erg) see http://www.monergism.com) always threatens the synergism (syn=with+erg=work) all are born with, presently most popularized, though ill-defined, as arminianism, though poor Jacob/James would have been horrified to see the ruin of his alleged followers deranged pseudo-theologies pretending to be harmonious with his many errors extensively Biblically refuted by the Synod of Dort for which Arminians have never provided reasonable rejoinder to those few who take God’s Word seriously for synergists are either idolatrous philosophers who disdain God’s Word or monergists-in-the-making on their way to abandoning the foolishness for God’s free grace, since all are born synergists and only come to escape its vile tentacles by the wonderful power of God’s free grace. As has been said, John Piper (www.desiringGod.org) and the late Charles Spurgeon (www.spurgeon.org) are two able proponents (Piper is better with exegesis, though hindered by credo-Baptist errors undercutting his Reformed theology) of God’s free grace loving the Reformation so important in restoring it.
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  16. 16 Russ Davis

    Oops! I forgot the links for the Synod of Dort at http://www.ccel.org (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/anonymous/canonsofdort.html), as is Calvin’s wonderful Biblically rich “Institutes of the Christian religion” (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/calvin/institutes)

  17. 17 Jason

    I agree that the definition of the term frames the debate. A better question might be “Does God save or not save people irrespective of their choice?” Of course this question is predicated on the fact that we all agree about the nature and course of salvation. At any rate if we answer “yes” than this means that God punishes people with an eternity in hell for rejecting his Son when they had no choice to do so. That doesn’t sound like a just God which my Bible presents.

  18. 18 Scripture Zealot

    “Does God save or not save people irrespective of their choice?” That’s a question I haven’t seen before. God wouldn’t send someone to hell who has chosen to believe the gospel. I don’t believe God saves or doesn’t save after a person would make a choice, if that’s how you want to put it.
    Jeff

  19. 19 Ted Truscott

    Russ Davis
    March 6 at 5:49 AM

    As the saying goes, “Define your terms and I’ll argue with you!”

    I’ve got a religiously pertinant (ie non-secular) definition of free will but it is long, involved and takes a bit of theological practice…

    Is this a good place to post it?

    Peace, Ted

  20. 20 Scripture Zealot

    Hi Ted,
    You could post it here, but since it’s an old post, not many would see it.
    Jeff

  21. 21 Ted Truscott

    Ok, I’ll wait… I believe in our existence pre-earth and everything that happened then reconciles omniscience, foreknowledge, free will, election / predestination and the gospel perfectly.

    You just have to get used to reading verses about the soul going back to God and God knowing us before our birth literally…. 🙂

    Ted

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